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	<title>Comments on: Social Business Design.  The Enterprise is Dead. Long Live the Enterprise.</title>
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	<description>The future of business lies in the intentional creation of a dynamic business culture that empowers all its constituents to exchange value. We call this social business design.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Paterson</title>
		<link>http://www.dachisgroup.com/2009/11/social-business-design-the-enterprise-is-dead-long-live-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff
Is not culture the root of comprehension - that is the meaning that I am imputing?

There has been a good debate in the last week about how each POV (Cultural Bias) looked at the election results and both saw what they wanted.

The new buzz here is the word &quot;Social&quot; - many say that &quot;Social&quot; has no place in a business setting.

Or Rupert Murdoch seeking to wall up access to his titles. It&#039;s easy to see the other side as bad people. But I think that they have a cultural screen in place that means that they just cannot comprehend what we are saying and we cannot understand their resistance.

Some suggest dropping the word &quot;social&quot; - others suggest weakening the offer to make it easier to swallow.

But I am wondering - can we deconstruct the cultural screens? Can we make an offer that will preserve the integrity of the better thinking but penetrate the barrier?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff<br />
Is not culture the root of comprehension &#8211; that is the meaning that I am imputing?</p>
<p>There has been a good debate in the last week about how each POV (Cultural Bias) looked at the election results and both saw what they wanted.</p>
<p>The new buzz here is the word &#8220;Social&#8221; &#8211; many say that &#8220;Social&#8221; has no place in a business setting.</p>
<p>Or Rupert Murdoch seeking to wall up access to his titles. It&#8217;s easy to see the other side as bad people. But I think that they have a cultural screen in place that means that they just cannot comprehend what we are saying and we cannot understand their resistance.</p>
<p>Some suggest dropping the word &#8220;social&#8221; &#8211; others suggest weakening the offer to make it easier to swallow.</p>
<p>But I am wondering &#8211; can we deconstruct the cultural screens? Can we make an offer that will preserve the integrity of the better thinking but penetrate the barrier?</p>
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		<title>By: John Boudreau</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Boudreau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great points made here. It always boils down to people, process and tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great points made here. It always boils down to people, process and tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dachis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dachis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Martijn!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dachis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dachis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Rob, 

You are right pointing out the cultural barrier as a huge one, but don&#039;t overlook comprehension either... 

I recently heard that 50% of a recent global consulting firms multi-million dollar budget and project schedule for the implementation of a collaboration platform was dedicated to cultural change management.

This is not by accident, but through a realization that culture, process and technology have to be brought together in a cohesive strategy.

I appreciate you taking the time to put forward your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Rob, </p>
<p>You are right pointing out the cultural barrier as a huge one, but don&#8217;t overlook comprehension either&#8230; </p>
<p>I recently heard that 50% of a recent global consulting firms multi-million dollar budget and project schedule for the implementation of a collaboration platform was dedicated to cultural change management.</p>
<p>This is not by accident, but through a realization that culture, process and technology have to be brought together in a cohesive strategy.</p>
<p>I appreciate you taking the time to put forward your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Martijn Linssen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martijn Linssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tnx Jeff, nice one! Was kind of lost at the end, but scanning it again produces a clear overview.

The Hivemind and Dynamic Signal could benefit from some further explanation, so does the Metafilter. I agree that we should turn data into information, and then remove the &quot;information porn&quot;, but how?

Overall, helpfull expansion on non-IT and society. Some people seem to still be worrying about &quot;how will this help me enter an order faster?&quot;...

Just reading Dennis Howlett&#039;s last post on E2.0 as well btw, will send him this way ;-)

Keep up the good work,

Martijn Linssen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tnx Jeff, nice one! Was kind of lost at the end, but scanning it again produces a clear overview.</p>
<p>The Hivemind and Dynamic Signal could benefit from some further explanation, so does the Metafilter. I agree that we should turn data into information, and then remove the &#8220;information porn&#8221;, but how?</p>
<p>Overall, helpfull expansion on non-IT and society. Some people seem to still be worrying about &#8220;how will this help me enter an order faster?&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Just reading Dennis Howlett&#8217;s last post on E2.0 as well btw, will send him this way <img src='http://www.dachisgroup.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep up the good work,</p>
<p>Martijn Linssen</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Paterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really great slide deck that I think puts forward neatly where we have to go. In particular, I think that you have nailed the design - the concentric circles of influence and power.

The aspect of your discourse that I still struggle with though is what I see as a core assumption - that a well crafted argument may change people&#039;s thinking.

No one would accuse Rupert Murdoch of being stupid. But it is clear, that just as the Pope would not accept Galileo&#039;s Helio Centric POV - in spite of the rational evidence - he will not accept any of what you show.

I don&#039;t think that the barrier is one of rational comprehension but of cultural impediments.

For me, the challenge is what to do in the face of this huge aspect of denial. We see it in the healthcare debate right now in another form of how dogma gets in the way of doing the right thing.

I don&#039;t pretend to have the answer to the cultural barrier - other than to look at history. Luther made it with both popular support helped by the printing press and by acts of the church to line its own pockets and by making a deal with the North German Princes (getting institutional support) who got freedom from Rome and the Emperor)

Today we have the support of the people for the same reasons that Luther had.

If you at Dachis can get a few major institutions to go along, then I think the old will topple.

The trick then is to find the right &quot;princes&quot;. I think that at NPR the hiring of Vivian Schiller was the key and in TV the move to KETC of Jack Galmiche. My bet is that it will boil down to a few individuals.

What is happening is that their actions, successes and so stories are affecting the larger group who find all of this next to impossible. As their influence spreads so the momentum picks up and the resistance gets weaker. I do fear though a last stand along the way.

I would love to see more from your team on the cultural barrier - I think that you have the firepower to make a big difference in addressing this aspect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really great slide deck that I think puts forward neatly where we have to go. In particular, I think that you have nailed the design &#8211; the concentric circles of influence and power.</p>
<p>The aspect of your discourse that I still struggle with though is what I see as a core assumption &#8211; that a well crafted argument may change people&#8217;s thinking.</p>
<p>No one would accuse Rupert Murdoch of being stupid. But it is clear, that just as the Pope would not accept Galileo&#8217;s Helio Centric POV &#8211; in spite of the rational evidence &#8211; he will not accept any of what you show.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the barrier is one of rational comprehension but of cultural impediments.</p>
<p>For me, the challenge is what to do in the face of this huge aspect of denial. We see it in the healthcare debate right now in another form of how dogma gets in the way of doing the right thing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pretend to have the answer to the cultural barrier &#8211; other than to look at history. Luther made it with both popular support helped by the printing press and by acts of the church to line its own pockets and by making a deal with the North German Princes (getting institutional support) who got freedom from Rome and the Emperor)</p>
<p>Today we have the support of the people for the same reasons that Luther had.</p>
<p>If you at Dachis can get a few major institutions to go along, then I think the old will topple.</p>
<p>The trick then is to find the right &#8220;princes&#8221;. I think that at NPR the hiring of Vivian Schiller was the key and in TV the move to KETC of Jack Galmiche. My bet is that it will boil down to a few individuals.</p>
<p>What is happening is that their actions, successes and so stories are affecting the larger group who find all of this next to impossible. As their influence spreads so the momentum picks up and the resistance gets weaker. I do fear though a last stand along the way.</p>
<p>I would love to see more from your team on the cultural barrier &#8211; I think that you have the firepower to make a big difference in addressing this aspect</p>
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